On 04/08(August)/2013 Sunday, at 11:00 am, I had a five minutes phone call with Avihu Ben Nun, Israeli Air Force Commander in the Years 1987-1992.
The background for this call:
My impression that the knowledge held by civilian UFO and aliens researchers, especially experiencers like myself, is closed within a small group of people, and does not reach the people who may understand the military importance of this information.
I have no doubt that the air force is aware of UFOs, but I have doubts about their ability to deal with the idea of aliens walking among us, doing pretty much whatever they want.
The practical reason for my call was to ask Avihu Ben Nun (pronounced "noon") two questions:
1. Is there an air force unit that investigates the UFO phenomenon?
2. If so, is it possible for me to meet a representative from this unit and tell him what I know?
I was not naive.
I knew that if the air force has such a unit, there's a good chance he will deny its existence.
But a few reasons made me think that maybe I'll get a different answer:
1. My blog that shows what I know about this subject.
2. The fact that Avihu Ben Nun is no longer in official position, but a retired officer that can act independently.
3. Avihu Ben Nun likes to be in touch with people.
He appeared in a lot of TV shows and interviews and even shared the public about his Parkinson disease.
He even participated in a clip called "Airplanes" as himself, as a favor to his son who's part of the group.
Cool guy.
My optimistic scenario was that he would think to himself:
This guy sounds serious and motivated .
Why not get him a meeting with someone?
No harm could be done from that.
There were two other reasons why I called:
1. I wanted to convey a message:
Maybe the air force knows about UFOs, but we the citizens know just as much, and we also know that you know.
It's time to stop the suppression of the information, because right now it is already more harmful than useful.
2. Because of the physical damage the aliens are doing to me, my life is in danger.
The aliens have no technical problem to kill me and make it look like a natural disease or an accident.
They have no moral inhibitions about it.
Apparently they also have an interest in that.
If I want to convey any message to someone, I'd better do it now and not wait.
This was an essential factor in my decision .
I told Avihu Ben Nun explicitly that if my life were not in danger, I would have not called him.
I'm not the kind of guy who would call high ranking people just to harass them.
I knew that from the moment the call starts, I do not have much time.
Once he understands what it is about, he would want to end the conversation as soon as possible .
The fact that he is now a citizen over seventy, who suffers from Parkinson made the problem worse.
I did not know how much patience he will have.
I hoped he will not slam the phone in my face.
I knew from his TV appearances that Avihu Bin Nun answers very briefly and to the point.
I have to know in advance what I'm going to say, or the conversation will be over before it started.
I'll have to talk straight to the point and very politely to be worthy of a response from someone in his position.
His wife answered the phone.
Shalom. Is this the Ben Nun family?
Yes.
Is Avihu available?
Yes.
A second later Avihu Ben Nun was on the line.
I thanked him for answering the phone.
I introduced myself by my real name, where I live and the name of my blog.
I told him that I belong to a group of amateurs who study the UFO phenomenon and we concluded that we are in the midst of an invasion.
This was not accurate:
Except for me there are very few people in Israel who think that, but there are many people around the world who reached a similar conclusion.
For me there is no difference if the people are from Israel or other place.
It was important to clarify that I am a part of a group.
Individual's claims in the UFO field are interpreted by those who are not in the know, as evidence that the person is crazy.
I apologized that the matter sounds weird, but once you start exploring the subject, it becomes much more serious.
Once Avihu Ben Nun understood what the conversation is about, he got nervous and wanted it to end.
To his credit I have to say that he answered politely and did not hung up the phone.
Avihu Ben Nun: "So what do you want?"
Me: I want to ask two questions:
1. Is there an air force unit that explores the UFO phenomenon?
2. If so, can I have a meeting with one of them and tell him what I know ?
Avihu Ben Nun:
"I do not know this subject and do not deal with it.
The air force has no unit that deals with this issue.
I wish all of you amateurs good luck and for you to be healthy."
I reminded Avihu Ben Nun that he appeared on the movie "Foreign Visitors" (38:20) by Ilan Shoshan at the beginning of the 2000's, where he said that the air force should be the one to investigate the UFO phenomenon.
Avihu Ben Nun did not remember the movie.
I attributed the answer to his age and health condition and that the question came unexpectedly.
I think if I would have refreshed his memory he would have remembered the movie, but I did not want to stay on the subject, afraid that he would lose interest in the conversation and close the phone.
The answers of Avihu Ben Nun were very formal, even mechanical.
It was clear to me that a man at his position is well trained at denying anything that is considered a military secret.
But there was somthing else:
Something about the stress in his voice and the mechanical way he spoke, suggested that he is under mind control.
It was as if he was reacting to me, but does not bring anything of his own to the conversation.
Like he was blocked or something. It wasn't the Parkinson.
There was no surprise about that.
People at this level are under mind control all around the world.
I felt that nothing I said impressed him enough to get him in to a discussion or even ask a clarification question.
He did not even say something like:
It's OK fellow, everything you said is already known to us.
It was completely a one sided conversation.
Avihu Ben Nun made an absolute denial of the entire UFO issue related to the Israeli air force.
He had done exactly what was expected of him, without any deviation.
At the end of the conversation I felt I came out too weird so I decided to add something:
"Look for the aliens in the infrared frequency.
Part of their activity is happening there.
Once you discover that, the subject will be perceived much less delusional."
At this point I thanked him for agreeing to listen to me and the conversation ended.
Summary:
1. The denial was expected and did not advance our knowledge about the Israeli air force involvement in the UFO field.
2. If the air force knows something, it does not think the public deserves to be shared with the information.
3. Given the amount of information gathered by citizens like us, this is a problem.
But nobody asks for my opinion.
4. It seems that the truth embargo is not going to change soon.
Not in Israel anyway.